Recently I read someone's review of the site that said, "This site rips on Christianity too much. As much as I dislike people who interpret the bible literally, nobody needs to fault them for it as long as they keep it to themselves." I don't want anyone to think that this site is COMPLETELY aimed at poking fun of Christianity, however within the same quote saying that we rip on Christianity too much, I find the reason that we do. Christians do not keep their religion to themselves. They are constantly in your face and they attempt to control everything. In the USA they control our government, broadcast on TV and radio, and influence every person's habits/lifestyles regardless of their individual religion or belief system. What do I mean by influencing everyone's habits/lifestyles? Christians have a moral code that supersedes everyone else's in this country. Since they control the government many aspects are enacted into laws. The ones that will really get you though are the ones that aren't laws. They make you think/act (or outwardly pretend) in certain ways. For example, any non-christians are looked down upon by Christians. This prevents children (born into a Christian family mainly, but this can apply to others) from wanting to be anything but Christian because they will face ridicule and be seen as an outcasts by the world around them. Another example would be having an alternative sexual preference, such as homosexuality or polyamory. Being heterosexual with one partner is fine, but anything else is frowned upon. Thus we have homosexuals scared out of their minds "in the closet," and polygamy will get you thrown in jail. I could probably write a book on how Christianity fucks with our lives, but I'm sure given these examples you can think of a few other ones on your own. The bottom line is that until Christianity either completely changes or dies, it's going to piss me off and I will continue to oppose it outwardly. Christianity perpetuates ignorance, intolerance, and hate. They should not be allowed so much control. I know there has been a theme of anti-christianity in my rants, but I want to assure you that I'll eventually get around to poking fun at, and pointing out absurdities in many many other religions. This site is still pretty young, so give us a bit of time, we'll get around to offending a lot more than just Christians. :-) Here is the entire user review I spoke of earlier: Their one rant not about Christianity is right on though, the War on Drugs should be ended because it doesn't provide enough benefits compared to the many disadvantages. It is my personal belief that the War on Drugs increases drug use, so it really is a waste of government resources. My other 2 comments about this:
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Perhaps I would argue that
Perhaps I would argue that there are enough charity-oriented organizations that operate under religious purposes that balance out the hateful people. I am not a religious man, however, I would argue that there has been a lot of great advances brought to us in the name of religion. The Renaissance comes to mind, as does other things. The problem with grouping someone is that you strip the individual nature of a person, in order to create them into a demographic which is ethically dangerous to do. I'm a target market, middle class male 18-30, yet I often find what they think I want is far from what I actually want. I have problems with fundamentalism, because it misses the point entirely, where as a spiritual text should be used for acquiring wisdom and values, it doesn't exactly need to be exact. The process of translation exists two times, theirs the physical translation done by someone who took the texts and put it in their language, and then there's the subjective translation for when some one reads it and processes it in their intellect. I don't pretend to have all of the answers, but Jerry Falwell is an asshole, and Mother Theresa was a fantastic human being.
-sp5k
"Art is not decoration, embellishment; rather it is work of enlightenment. Art, in other words, is a technique for acquiring liberty."
Bruce Lee, Tao of Jeet Kune Do
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Hey SuperPaul5000, welcome to the site! You make some good points, however with every bowl of rice the charities hand out, there is a decent portion of brainwashing that comes with it. Also for every "advancement" the church has brought throughout the ages, there was probably 100 scientific ideas that were supressed. Another point I often hear argued is that a lot of good art has come out of religion, but I would counter that with the argument that those people could have easily found another theme for their works.
The point you make about grouping people is awesome. I really hate how there is a tendancy for people to label themselves as one thing or another and then cry about being pigeonholed into a stereotype. It does happen that sometimes the labeling is done by a third party, and that is lame, however most people seem to do it to themselves.
brainwash my dishes!
Hi Disillusion, thanks for the welcome!
I would say that the brainwashing thing is a factor, but the point is, some one who didn't have food has it now. I think a lot of values are over looked by many people of faith, but then there are the ones, and the ideas are present to make for a good person if they want to. Which is really what spiritually is about.
Advancements that were made under religious rule also tend to be towards the darker side, for instance, the idea of biological warfare was something done during the crusades. I think, and I'm writing a book on this, that we are admidst a present dark age. That our technology has seemingly outsourced function in our lives, and whether we replace the word God with Science, we still are putting something else in place for our own accountability. Which is the foundation for a culture of the self-serving and the self important. The inflated idea of what need any more is lost on most people. Where as the idea of guilt is generally considered a bad thing. Though I imagine that if we tended to accept guilt into our lives we wouldn't have as many problems as we do now. As a culture, we've done some seriously messed up things. Things that require a sense of guilt and atonement. That would be a cultural progression.
The problem with applying science to God is the same problem that I have with fundamental religious following. It lacks insight and it narrows things down to true/false yes/no. How many situations that we've been in, positive/negative could be narrowed down to just right and wrong. If hadn't made the mistake of wasting my 20's, I wouldn't be here typing away, where as I would be somewhere else with a different list of priorities. Most of life happens in a shade of gray. I've done some seriously messed up things in my life, but I've also done a lot of good when I could. I also believe that the idea that the wisdom I've acquired has allowed me to process the facts or intelligence in a productive and creative way.
As stated before, I am not a Christian, however, I am familiar enough from being brought up that way with a lot of the messages. There is a hidden undercurrent of the struggle for power in the whole deal. I saw a book at a borders called Why Rome Invented Jesus and I thought it was an interesting point from what I read of it. Not to mention, one of my favorite quotes is from the bible, and is a motto in a lot of my own writings.
"For our struggle is not with flesh and blood
but with the principalities, with the powers,
with the world rulers of this present darkness,
with the evil spirits in the heavens."
-Ephesians 6:12
-sp5k
"Art is not decoration, embellishment; rather it is work of enlightenment. Art, in other words, is a technique for acquiring liberty."
Bruce Lee, Tao of Jeet Kune Do
Really?
Do you really think I look down on you? I find that sad if you really do.
What a crock of shit....
Wow! News to me. I had no idea there was a site to bitch about other sites. DA is no different than a christian site preaching that you and I and everyone else that posts on here is going to hell for being non-believers. DA is a site where you can say whatever you want. It probably doesm't matter but I like this site. And if some numbnut has a problem with that he can suck an aborted fetus!